Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast
Finale | Season 3 Q & A
Conversation | Art of Growth

Conversation | Art of Growth

April 28, 2022

Today we team up with the guys at the Art of Growth podcast, Jim Zartman and Joel Hubbard. Jim and Joel are trained in the Narrative Tradition of the enneagram and do some excellent enneagram work. We talked to them about their own stories and how the enneagram has helped them make sense of them. Our season theme of "story" plays a big role in how they approach their podcast and their work with clients. 

Also, if you like typing film characters, this is the episode for you. Jim and Joel have some insightful takes about the characters in the film Encanto. 

This was a profound conversation. It’s a bit longer than our normal episode length, but well worth the listen.

Check out the Art of Growth podcast and all their other fantastic resources at https://www.theartofgrowth.org/

Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: “Discovering our inner depths, one fathom at a time.”

Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Drew Moser

Production/Editing: Seth Creekmore

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Re:Listen | Working with Type with Leslie Hershberger

Re:Listen | Working with Type with Leslie Hershberger

April 14, 2022

We are hard at work crafting the final few episodes of season 3 and wanted to highlight this wonderful episode we did back in the beginning of season 1. If you listen carefully, you'll pick up the elements of story we've been mentioning throughout the season. Knowing your story. Knowing what stories to drop and Understanding the stories of others. 

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In this episode we interview the brilliant and winsome Leslie Hershberger, an enneagram teacher with decades of experience. Leslie talks about her own encounters with the enneagram, how she uses the enneagram in her work with clients and students, and the difference between entertainment, information, and transformation. Enjoy this masterclass in how to deepen your work with the enneagram.

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“Navigating our inner depths…one fathom at a time.”

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“Wisdom isn’t knowing more. It’s knowing with more of you.”—Cynthia Bourgeault

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Fathom 15 | The 9 Basic Propositions

Fathom 15 | The 9 Basic Propositions

April 7, 2022

In this episode of Fathoms, we [Abram and Drew] are entirely and utterly Creekless but soldier on anyway to talk about the 9 Basic Propositions of the enneagram. These basic propositions, developed by the late Dr. David Daniels, provide a wealth of insight into the stories we try to live out from our character structure.

  • 2:20 What is a "basic proposition"?
  • 5:15 Type 1
  • 8:10 Type 2
  • 10:05 Type 3 [Drew]
  • 1 1:28 Type 4 [Creek]
  • 14:50 Type 5
  • 16:45 Type 6
  • 18:30 Type 7
  • 21:35 Type 8 
  • 23:20 Type 9 [Abram]
  • 25:30 What do we do with this knowledge?
  • 28:00 Byron Katie’s 4 questions to reflect upon our stories. 

Be sure to check out the book, The Essential Enneagram, by Daniels and Price. 

Find out more about The Narrative Enneagram’s resources and offerings: https://www.narrativeenneagram.org/ 

Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: “Discovering our inner depths, one fathom at a time.”

Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Drew Moser

Production/Editing: Seth Creekmore

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  • Follow Abram: @integratedenneagram
  • Follow Creek: @creekmoremusic
  • Follow Drew: @typetrailenneagram
Conversation | To Drop or Not
Fathom 15 | Humility & Curiosity with Type

Fathom 15 | Humility & Curiosity with Type

March 24, 2022

In this episode, Creek and Drew discuss how to handle the knowledge or the prediction when you know or encounter someone who is mistyped. How should one handle it?

01:33 Humility goes a long way

03:05 Start with the instincts

06:21 Being observative and compassionate with the person you’re interacting with

10:58 Examples with Russ Hudson and Nhien Vuong

13:40 Ask questions of curiosity, not passive aggression

19:00 Adding one more thing: allow for time

Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: “Discovering our inner depths, one fathom at a time.”

Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Drew Moser

Production/Editing: Seth Creekmore

Interview | The Somatics of Story with Renee Rosario

Interview | The Somatics of Story with Renee Rosario

March 17, 2022

We’re all back together and today we’re talking with enneagram teacher Renee Rosario. Renee leads with Type 2 and is a core faculty member of The Narrative Tradition. Renee gives a winsome exploration of the heart and vision of the narrative approach, and provides some profound insight on the somatic insights of our stories. 

 

3:35 A little bit about Renee and her enneagram story

7:25 A lightning round of questions to get to know Renee beyond the enneagram

12:45 Renee tells of the origins of the Narrative Tradition

14:15 What is an enneagram panel? 

15:29 What makes a great enneagram panel? 

17:45 Other distinctive of The Narrative Tradition

19:00 Personal Development’s 3 pillars: Psychology, Spirituality, Somatics

23:00 What does integration look and feel like?

24:00 Why did The Narrative Tradition add Somatics to its work? 

25:15 The stories our bodies hold

28:00 The nonverbal of somatic work: Notice. Pause. Allow.

29:45 Can somatic work help us discover our type? 

31:00 The importance of the inner observer

33:00 How to cultivate our inner observer

36:25 Practices Renee finds helpful

38:40 Does it get any easier? 

40:50 How to find Renee and Narrative Enneagram trainings. 

 

Find out more about The Narrative Enneagram’s resources and offerings: https://www.narrativeenneagram.org/ 

Cymatics

Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: “Discovering our inner depths, one fathom at a time.”

Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Drew Moser

Production/Editing: Seth Creekmore

 

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  • Follow Creek: @creekmoremusic
  • Follow Drew: @typetrailenneagram
PSA | Calling for all Questions

PSA | Calling for all Questions

March 10, 2022

We want your questions! We are in the process of wrapping up this season and per usual we will be doing a Q & A for our season finale. It's one of our favorite episodes to do and we want to hear from you!

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In the meantime, as we prepare the remainder of the episodes for this season, we wanted to highlight a few other podcast that we've found to be helpful in the realm of knowing our stories and know how to drop our stories. 

Hidden Brain

Changing Our Minds - TED Radio Hour

 

Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: “Discovering our inner depths, one fathom at a time.”

Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Drew Moser

Production/Editing: Seth Creekmore

  • Follow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagram
  • Follow Abram: @integratedenneagram
  • Follow Creek: @creekmoremusic
  • Follow Drew: @typetrailenneagram
Fathom 15 | Can You Change Your Number?

Fathom 15 | Can You Change Your Number?

March 3, 2022

Fathom 15 | Can you change your number? 

In this short episode, the Seths considered an often asked question (while Drew was on vacation): Can you change your enneagram number? 

0:40 The Seths attack Drew’s character behind his back. Lame. 

2:00 Can we change our enneagram type? 

4:00 “We’re not as mushy . . .”

7:00 If we could change our number, should we want to? 

8:30 Tom Condon: Dysfunctional behavior is always acquired

Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: “Discovering our inner depths, one fathom at a time.”

Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Drew Moser

Production/Editing: Seth Creekmore

  • Follow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagram
  • Follow Abram: @integratedenneagram
  • Follow Creek: @creekmoremusic
  • Follow Drew: @typetrailenneagram
Interview | Taking Control of Your Story with Mario Sikora

Interview | Taking Control of Your Story with Mario Sikora

February 24, 2022

Today, Enneagram teacher and executive coach Mario Sikora returns to speak with us. Mario is the author of ​​Awareness to Action: The Enneagram, Emotional Intelligence, and Change and co-host of the Enneagram in a Movie podcast. Mario shares his insight on rewriting our narrative and how to take action to work on the clay that is our brain.

1:46 The Inner Triangle and how to undo your story

7:29 A simple example of how to go about that process

11:56 Scripting and writing is an active process rather than a passive process

15:52 Growing has two forms: virtue and intentionality

19:14 The importance to feel the sensations

25:37 Toxic shame vs shame vs guilt

29:51 The dangers and harm of an inaccurate story

34:19 The maturation process

38:14 Mario’s pitch for the Enneagram in a Movie podcast

Learn more about Awareness to Action: awarenesstoaction.com

Listen to Enneagram in a Movie podcast: awarenesstoaction.com/podcast

Relisten to our two-part interview with Mario Sikora: Part 1, Part 2

Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: “Discovering our inner depths, one fathom at a time.”

Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Drew Moser

Production/Editing: Seth Creekmore

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